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Ken Turner, an artist and frequent contributor to the website throughout the public consultation, gives his perspective on the Arts Council's agenda since the 1960's, and tells us why '...funding needs dialogue, not rules.'
Having been given the chance to continue the debate, and commending ACE for launching the discussion, I find it extremely difficult to keep within reasonable bounds in the length of a written piece. Therefore I can only slightly enlarge on what I have said already online and leave it to others to continue the discussion/debate or whatever it seems to be.
It would be appropriate in the context of the debate to dip onto my own historical experience and practice stemming from 1967 to 1978 through to my concerns today. As a painter I left a successful exhibiting career in galleries to work as an artist in the community. In 1967 I set up action space, (lower case intended). This act was a direct protest against the gallery system and the idea of art being a commodity (You can read more about it here).
During the decade ‘68-‘78 a system of practice came out of action space that at the time was completely unknown. It had in those years successfully completed a sense of a mission that has now turned sour in the hands of bureaucrats. Social input is now privileged over art. I will later discuss this falsification of ideas taken from an artist’s movement to show how far removed institutions can be from the intentionality of artists and their practice. And in this sense become undemocratic.
An artists approach to art is, I would have thought, sacrosanct. However, the ‘systems’ of thought developed by the Arts Council arising from what happened in the 60’s became completely muddled in its attempt to translate what was happening in the art and community experiment. In the first place it is dangerous to make a drawing board analysis, and in the second place it was undemocratic to bring these experiences of artists working in the community into a form of rigid criteria without consultation with the artists concerned: there were other groups and individuals besides action space.
A simplistic formulation of criteria now dominates. The ‘arms length’ policy has gone, replaced by a critique primarily resting on social aspects of engagement in art. Artists are now being cajoled into thinking about their art in ways that prioritise the getting of money as being the most important first step in grant applications. In doing so the Arts Council is actually entering into the artists domain of creativity. How right is that, how democratic? Could be bordering on subtle but unconscious soviet style directives? One in which art is for people’s sake no matter what the quality of that art is. If you care for people then you should also care for the quality and kind of presentation of art. The artist as author and instigator has to be in full command of their particular creative skills and presentation. action space would not have succeeded under the new regime, never have pioneered new paradigms, never have brought a new concept of working into play. In the time of radical reversal and turning round of thought in the 60’s, action space with other artists groups like Forkbeard Fantasy, Interaction, Brighton Combination and Welfare State were free to grow and prove their worth. action space was making performance art long before the term was coined.
It appears to me that today’s attitude in the Arts Council, having wrongly understood the art of the sixties has now become moribund and atrophied in its thinking whilst speaking from a supposedly high level, unassailable position of authority. Hopefully, as in the sixties and seventies, the Arts Council is listening to this debate but this time with a more democratic spirit. The only reservation I would have on my judgement is that ‘community art’ in its ‘misinterpretation’ from action space has a probable function with a wider section of the community in terms of familiarising a public with ideas of an approach to creativity in a more popular, easily understood form. The so-called art workers in this field are by extension also social workers. In this context many ‘live art’ artists fall into this bracket because this is where the money is. The question is, does this activity increase the awareness of a wider public to art? No!
In continuing my argument I want to bring together, ‘value for money’, ‘public value’ and ‘value in art’. The question is, are these propositions compatible? Value for money could be related to public value and value in art related to the qualities in art conveyed to the public. But in the Arts Council terms, they are used for economic and political ends. Converted into strictly rigid rule-book guidelines they could be seen thus: ‘value for money’ for the most immediate and obvious economic pay-back of art to it being of ‘public value’ as doing the public good and as being the ultimate measure of art’s value. Philosophically, educationally and socially that is nonsense. As a way of thinking it trashes the idea of art and how the artist works. Actually I need say no more on this absurd rationalisation of art and society. But it does illustrate that rules cannot be applied to funding the arts. There needs to be a dialogue with artists. A dialogue that establishes agreement on concepts related to an artist’s particular approach and what the sum total of the artist’s developments looks to be.
In this procedure of dialogue the notion of social engagement and art will take care of themselves when art is prioritised. It being a question of what it means to be human. ‘Value in art’ is seen as art at its highest level where ‘public value’ increases creative awareness. Thereby achieving ‘economic value’ and the return of all values into enriching cultural life. A culture only grows through the radicality of change. Rulebook guidelines will inhibit young artists into a false belief that financial benefits come first. A quick fix mentality directed by Arts Council policy.
A possible way of change is to adopt a step-by-step method; steps that lead into dialogue with the Arts Council, to a more complete understanding between the participants where ideas and instrumentation are clearly seen to be workable, however experimental. These discussions should be part of the process, if not the main decision making process itself in order to make a fair judgement in terms of the art itself. I think this approach should be up for discussion.
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good to read a consideration less based on the patronizing and quasi-pedagogical rhetoric so frequently used in arts council and community art related discourse. as an artist i can say that yes, the way the notion of art is used in the above mentioned contexts has extremely little to do with the ways in which i envisage value and engagement in my practice. i am indeed interested in art and social change, but not if i am told what i am to understand by social change and how i am to go about it. this kind of prescriptive policy is based on superficial thinking about what people might hope to gain from an art experience, seeing them as consumers in need of instruction, and the absurd idea that we can make art cause happiness, via a set of guidelines.
Thanks for that, Zehra, - when you consider that art has often been part of totalitarian regimes, it is a nonsense to say art advances cultural growth.
Ken - I agree about the need for a space for both artist and public dialogue. Are you expecting anything else from the Arts Council?
Since working for Action Space in the eighties (without the benefit of Arts Council funding) I have learnt that the arts make a lot of people happy and also provide a rare space for the expression of views on culturally sensitive planning if not growth.
It is this artful approach to community and cultural planning that is most lacking in what the Arts Council currently do. If this became the basis of the organisation's work it would inform so many parts that are currently confused, contradictory or moribund.
The Arts Council will never be an arts organisation for radical or social change. That is not its job. It is a government bureaucracy. Let us support it in what it should be best at: allowing us to create more opportunities for participation in the arts.
Sometimes I wonder if art is really good for you?
Andy - in your case you say you have seen people become happy. I understand that as you were working in action space in the eighties, what was making them 'happy' was an engagement with community art. My view of this is that you were involved with social engagement using art as a tool.
Art as a 'tool' is a slogan often used by community artists. Artists outside this bracket would find the expression undesirable and insidious in it desire to sabotage fundamental concepts of art.
I left action space before it became 'action space mobile'. At that point of departure I argued that action space renew itself in its radicality, to intellectually reform and retrace its steps to become once again a movement for change. To work again independently, move into new territory out of reach of bureaucracies. Back to an artists' vision of enlargement. One that Joseph Beuys pursued. Art and its processes of thought and thinking as a thing in itself as this being the real definition of engagement/enlargement. An engagement, not simply on a social level but as an intellectual engagement in what the power of art can bring to question ethics and the general morality of our culture: not to be happy but to question.
the Arts Council has now reached a stage of malfunction. Its demands to artists are clearly directed from government - it acts as a supplementary government department.
The Arts Council needs to reorganize if it is to continue its existence. For example: we could say that community art and its family of arts organizations and theatre centers is now firmly established as 'arts activity', directly tailored or tooled for the generality of the people. That is, culturally and educationally one department for community art.
Another completely separate function with its own funds would cater for existing major clients.
A third category is the most important, acting as an inspirational source for the other two. Its prime function being to facilitate experiment with new approaches, unknown concepts and so on. This third category could lead to increased funding for organisations already in the business of experimental arts a such as ArtsAdmin, Beaconsfield, and Locus +. One could also look at funding for other agencies such as established artists setting up organisations or arts laboratories to bridge the gap between graduating and professional status that students struggle to attain. A monitoring scheme within this would bring enormous benefit to the growth of critical intellectual engagement in how the arts might develop as an extra force in society, in the belief that the arts raise questions on perceptions of how we live.
What I am saying is, delegate the experimental to bodies outside the Arts Council. Whether this would free art from bureaucracy is a mute point - but then art is never going to be totally good for you, particularly when it's biting at the leash in order to dismantle established regimes; to be subversive and disruptive to the accepted concepts of the day
If anyone is expecting The Arts Council to do any more than administer a brief from it's New Labour Masters they are deluded. We have to ignore them and do it ourselves.
Some empirical evidence to back up the political polemic would be rather nice.
There can be a world of difference between how individuals view the particular systems that they are operating within and the practice of these systems. The idea that the Arts Council is simply a puppet of whoever controls central government is simply untenable.
I would have expected that artists will do whatever they want to do regardless of anything other than economic or artistic incapability. To see the existing organisational system as somehow being the cause of artistic incapability is not particularly helpful. There are serious points about the instrumentalisation of the arts being made by Mr. Turner (I apologise for the formality but we have not been introduced to each other), but, again, these are not the fault of the organisational system but of wider ideological matters that cannot be resolved without some serious political engagement with the existing system. Mr. Turner's enagagement with action space was clearly an attempt to do this - and, equally as clearly - it failed. This failure was not the responsibility of the any one individual or organisation but the consequence of existing distributions of power within society as a whole (and not just the arts world).
By establishing an argument that is premised upon certain ideas from within the art world it is unlikely that the concerns that have been expressed will ever be capable of resolution. The debate here is not an artistic one, it is a political one and the only way that that is going to be resolved is through political means. Mr. Turner's final call for discussion and dialogue is a first step in this process - what direction should be followed after it though is another question altogether.
Some funding to collect and codify the empirical evidence would be rather nice.
There is a whole world of difference between how organizations view their function and their actual practice.I have been on the receiving end of the Arts Councils manipulative and disrespectful treatment and can tell you I don't need to run an expensive research project to know what it is all about. The fact of the matter is that the Arts Councils ever changing targets and hierarchies of value show very plainly that it is certainly 'a puppet of central government'.
I never made any judgments of artistic and economic incapability or suggested that the organization was responsible for either.I acknowledge the points made by Mr.Turner but do not agree that any use can come from idealogical engagement, whether serious or not,with the existing system. I have no confidence that any kind of engagement will do anything except waste more of my time. The way in which the political process has been debased can leave no one with any illusions that any reasonable outcome can be expectated.
For 'expectated' read 'expected' I never thought I could produce such a good 'Bushism'.
In terms of funding and cuts related to 2012 - why don't arts organisations start their own lottery - sold via galleries, theatres and museums - cultural prizes on offer - and the proceeds going exclusively back into the Arts.
This reply is a bit delayed owing to pressure of artistic work.
Clive Gray refers to the failure of 'action space'. Politically, this is only partial. Artistically, not at all.
To this extent the work is still ongoing through a number of groups since I myself left the originating 'body'.
Action Space Mobile in Yorkshire. (run by my wife)
action space London Events in Camden, London.
An Active Section in Derbyshire
A Group in Wales also working in Africa.
This is not to mention many small groups who were influenced by action space ideas and are continuing the work throughout the UK.
As a recipient of an ACE grant perhaps I should say nothing. However my experience is that applying to and dealing with a regional office is a little like using the DHSS in its 70's glory days - obstructive, rule bound, utterly uninterested in WHAT is done only in the precise application of procedure.
It is the absolute unwillingness to engage with what we do that surprises and puzzles me.
No one asks for information until it's all over. No one goes to any performance or could discuss any aspect of what we do.
There is a paradox - we do what we want within the remit of our grant and ACE remain neutral, if mildly hostile.
And yet there are several dozen people in their office.
Is it a call centre? Or a funding agency for the arts, for creative action? Or an ATM - submit your paperwork, wait quietly, take your money, go away.
Perhaps that is what they want? And then to be quietly rolled up and used as a running track in 2012?
It seems that my last contribution shut everything down. Not my intention.
But others will be the judge of that.
Perhaps I struck a chord...